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kschmidt
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posted 06-01-2005 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kschmidt   Click Here to Email kschmidt     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I am following a little boy with trisomy 8 mosaicism. Father asked me about how old is oldest living affected, what is lifespan for most, and is there increased risk for leukemia. I would be very pleased to hear from those taking care of these children what their experience has been and if children die young what has been the cause of death. Thanks,

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Karen Schmidt, M.D.
Brody School of Medicine
Greenville, NC 27834

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chewitt
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posted 11-29-2005 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chewitt   Click Here to Email chewitt     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I have a 30 year old daughter diagnosed with Trisomy 8 mosaic and against all odds she appears to be "normal". Her constant symptom appears to be mouth ulcers which have plagued her since childhood. I would be interested to hear any info you have re this syndrome. My best wishes to your case study and his family.
Regards,
Christine Hewitt

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mendozakathryn
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posted 02-11-2006 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mendozakathryn   Click Here to Email mendozakathryn     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My sister has Trisomy 8 mosaic and she's 34 years old. She does not have leukemia, but has had multiple physical and learning disabilities. I just found a great website for families "www.rarechromo.org" or email "info@rarechromo.org" for more info. They sent me a FABULOUS 12-page pamphlet just about trisomy 8, which I am thrilled about. The little bit I've found on the net is mostly for doctors/ VERY hard to understand. Best of luck and email me if you have any questions.

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wiccantopaz
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posted 03-08-2006 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wiccantopaz   Click Here to Email wiccantopaz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My son is 26 and he has trisomy 8. He has moderate mental retardation and many physical problems. He did graduate regular (not special ed) high school at age 20. He currently lives in a halfway house and has a job in a retail environment. He is a happy person and seems to have come to terms with his challenges. He is unable to drive so he rides the bus. I have only met one other person with trisomy 8 and it was a girl here in Iowa. Her physical and mental capabilities were much more affected than my son's.

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tracey
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posted 03-28-2006 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracey   Click Here to Email tracey     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi,

My 5 year old son Sam has suspected trisomy 8 mosaicism. I say 'suspected' as his blood sample showed nothing but his tissue sample came back as 'intriguing' according to the genticist. Only 1% of the cells showed the trisomy but according to what I have read, the number of cells with the trisomy is irrelevant to the severity of the 'condition'. It is also a very vague diagnosis as the delay can be mild to severe therefore a prognosis difficult to give.

I have also read about a link to leukeamia but my geneticist seems to doubt that there is an increase with people with trisomy 8 mosaicisim. I am very interested to hear from anyone who might know something about this.

Sam is delayed in all areas of development, specifically his fine motor and his speech but he is a lovely, happy affectionate little boy. He is healthy so far. He wears glasses for his long sightedness and was born with a bilateral strabismus which was improved with surgery at 15 months. He has deep plantar creases between his big toe and second toe.

He will go to a special class at a mainstream school next year. We do speech and occupational therapy weekly. He has two younger siblings, a sister and brother that are developing fine.

Looking forward to hearing anyone who may be able to share their experiences with me, any obstacles and what therapy/therapies/techniques were most helpful in overcoming these.

Tracey Youssef
Sydney Australia

[This message has been edited by tracey (edited 03-28-2006).]

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faithandhope
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posted 04-25-2006 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for faithandhope   Click Here to Email faithandhope     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kschmidt:
I am following a little boy with trisomy 8 mosaicism. Father asked me about how old is oldest living affected, what is lifespan for most, and is there increased risk for leukemia. I would be very pleased to hear from those taking care of these children what their experience has been and if children die young what has been the cause of death. Thanks,



I have a 3 year old son with Mosaic Trisomy 8. He has been in OT, Speech and PT since he was 10 months old. (B/c they did not diagnos him until 8 months old) I initally thought there was a problem when he was 6 months old and not lifting his head.He is progressing nicely. He is on target with fine motor skills and as close as he can get to phsical because he is very small but his speech is still delayed. He is currently 25 lbs and wears 18 month clothes. He had a tethered spinal cord that was found last year and fixed via nuero surgery. He cries signifigantly, he is uncontrolable at times. I recently relocated to GA from Washington DC and the doctor I met here thinks he has PDD (Purvasive Developmental Disorder) which is what Autism falls under. My son "zones out" alot, he is easily frustrated. For the most part-he looks like a normal child. He is really small. He is always happy, happier then a normal child for sure! He is very loveable and affectionate. Recently he started crying alot more and alot more so I took him to the doctor which promted the dr. to think he is PDD. If you are ever looking to move somewhere that will be best for your child, Washington DC was the place. They provided to me, free of charge with no income limitations/restrictions, daycare at a private facility that housed therpists, transportation, equiptment (nebulizer, managed care insurance for special needs kids, it was great. Here in GA where I moved none of this is avilable to him. The think that upsets me is the lack of knowledge about this Trisomy. Had some doctor at some point determined that he would have behavior problems then he would have already been in therapy to prevent them and would not be suffering as he is now. I believe that he goes into states where he does not realize anyone is there, he gets violent and dillusional. (spell?) He has been to every type of doctor possible and nothing has been found wrong with any part of his body, organs, etc. I just recently learned that his is prone to cancer. :-( :-( :-( I have always felt that once he learns his way he will lead a normal life. Most people that meet him think he is a year younger then he is, not retarded.

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Debra
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posted 05-24-2006 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Debra   Click Here to Email Debra     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I have a 22 year old son with Mosaic Trisomy 8. He is a delight. He has had several physical and mental challenges. His IQ is around 60. He is still living at home,but works at Burgerking 2 hours a day. He was prone to severe tantrums until he turned 5 which was when he started to speak and be understood. It is still difficult for people to understand him, but he is able to spell the words. He loves to read. He just learned how to swim. He takes care of his self and does all his laundry. We are working on cooking and preparing food. He is a very happy young man. He also had severe blisters in his mouth when he was run down. We started using a natural toothpaste without SLS and he only gets them once or twice a year now. He will never be able to drive but he now schedules his own pickup and dropoff by paratransit. He loves the feeling of independence.

[This message has been edited by Debra (edited 12-15-2006).]

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MelindaR
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posted 06-29-2006 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MelindaR   Click Here to Email MelindaR     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My sister had trisomy 8. I'm sorry, I don't know whether she was mosaic, but she probably was. I haven't wanted to ask my mother, who was invovled in her medical care.

Where to start? She was small and pretty (all the women are petite in our family) and always looked younger than her age (so did I and my mom in our youth, but not so much as she did.) I don't think she had any gross organ dysfunctions, and she was a good deal more intelligent and talented than average (although she did have some early delays in speech development.) She went to a prestigious private college for her BA and later earned an MA in education. She put this to good use teaching at a Navaho reservation in New Mexico. She was also a gifted painter who was starting to get represented in some galleries, as well as a very good juggler. She was interested in theatre, and sometimes took part in amateur productions.

Here is the worse side of things. Her illness seemed to begin in early childhood with alarmingly high fevers that came out of "nowhere" whenever we went on a trip or when she got stressed. The fevers ended in childhood, but like some others with her condition, she suffered all her life from bouts of sores that were not only in her mouth, but all the way down her digestive tract and even in her vagina. (Once an ulcer in her intestine burst and if she had not been rushed to the hospital for emergency surgery, she would have died.) She also suffered periodically from rheumatoid arthritis. Her immune system was obviously a mess, but she didn't get sick very often with illnesses like colds and flus.

Her final illness was characterized at its onset by fevers and exhaustion. She thought it was a lingering flu, but upon examination at the local hospital the doctors suspected leukemia. AML was confirmed, and they began chemotherapy at once. Sometime during the time she was being treated they confirmed the trisomy 8. They never got the leukemia under control with chemo so that transfusions or other therapies could have been possible. All the same, the oncologist told us that if she had been successfully treated, the leukemia would have repeated until it eventually took her down.

This final illness was diagnosed in early June of 2004 and she died at the age of 28 about 3 1/2 months later.

The last thing I would like to share with you here is that her condition was somewhat helped by diet. Until the very end of her life, nobody knew what was causing all of her mysterious illnesses. Our parents took her to every kind of specialist, but nobody could provide a satisfactory answer. There was one nutritional therapist, however, who was able to help her. He told her to exclude or limit as much as possible: wheat, dairy, sugar, citrus, and all plants of the nightshade family (these include potatoes, peppers, and tomatoes.) Alcohol, tobacco, and junk foods were obviously also taboo. The more she kept to this diet, the less she seemed to suffer from outbreaks of sores, arthritis, and general sickness. For those of you who are "following" children, please look into removing these foods from their diets and see if it helps.

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Kaleb
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posted 08-11-2006 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kaleb   Click Here to Email Kaleb     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi my name is Amy I am a 25 year old single mother of two. My son Kaleb has Trisomy 8 mosaicism. He is currently two and a half. When I was pregnat with him we new there was something different about the pregnacy. I had three extra pockets of fluid and a 8lb baby I was caring around. So we were aware of there being kindney issues and we new he was missing his corpus collosum (spelling might be off) It is the seam of the brain which handles the communication between the two hemispheres of the brain. That is what I was told anyway. With knowing this information while I was pregnat it was suggested that I get an amio done so I did and nothing came back about it. I scheduled a c-section because I was afraid he would not be able to make it through a regular delivery. Even though I new there were issues I still wanted this baby very much so. So I delivered Kaleb on Jan 28 2004. When they broke my water it sounded like a five pound bucket of water being dumped on the floor. They went to hand him to me and quickly pulled him back because Kaleb turned completely blue. They then kept him over night to see his progress. He would not eat, he kept choking and his tone was so low that it was hard to hold him. Everytime you would his neck would move a certain way and his breathing would be shut off. That night the arrangments for Kaleb to go to Cincinnati Childrens RICNIC unit were set in motion. He would go the next morning. The pain of the prior c-section did not matter at that time I told them to release me to go with him they said they would on one stipulation that I would come back and stay one more night. It was done. That day they set him up with so many test it was overwhelming. They came to me a couple of days later with everything that was "wrong" with him and put it all under the name of Trisomy 8 mosacism syndrome. At the time I had no idea all the different things that fall under that name. Of course Kaleb seemed to have almost everyone of the symptoms of this chromosome disorder. He aquired five surgerys three of which he received within the two and a half months he stayed at childrens hospital. Kaleb is in MRDD and OT, PT, Speech, and he follows up with High Risk. Kaleb is very small for his age. He has spoke words like mama and dada, hi but has not for awaile now. I have tought him sign laungage which has helped a lot with his frushtrating fits. I am unable to work because when Kaleb is in daycare he ends up spending more time at the hospital than I end up working. When he gets sick now I take him to the Chiropractor do to not wanting all the medications pumped into him all the time, his hair was so brittle and all the IV holes were horrible. With the chiropractor it takes about a week for him to fully recover. I have found that he is very sensitive or responsive to craneal work. I was introduced to it by his OT. Everytime he becomes overwhelmed or has fits or doesnt listen very well I take him weekly for OT and she does the craneal work and he is completly different. Kaleb listens very well and is very lovable as well. It is almost like he knows he just cant experess what he wants to. Everything has been step by step with him and then back stepping and tring to get moving again. I think most doctors dont know what to excpect out of a Trisomy 8 child. When I take him to a Doctor at the emergancy room and begin to tell them they kind of get this glased look over there eyes and run to find help.LOL It has been hard with Kaleb but I would not trade it for the world he has been such a heaven sent blessing. He has opened my eyes to so many things. I dont know how long he will be here but I will sure charish all the time I have!!!

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ChrisBuzon
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posted 07-11-2007 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChrisBuzon   Click Here to Email ChrisBuzon     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi there!

I also have a brother with Trisomy 8. He is 29 years old. We live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

There are a few things that have plagued him through the years, such as Osteoporosis, extreme growth (he is 6'8" at about 100lbs) very large hands and feet (size 16-17) mouth sores, and some speach and learning disabilities. There are a few other issues that arise from time to time, but for the most part he his very happy and healthy.

He holds a stable job working at a pet store - and he has a lot of experience working with animals in the past. All animals seem to have a very strong bond with him, and he has a true fascination with everything alive.

He lives at home with my parents, but probably could handle living by himself if he had someone check in on him from time to time. He spends countless hours playing online video games, from which he has been able to drastically improve his social skills.

Most problems seem to arise from other peoples inability to accept him. His obvious physical characteristics makes him noticably different - but that is another barrier that has been overcome with the ability to communicate with others around the world in video game chatrooms.

I love my brother very much, and im happy to see him in the niche that he has carved for himself. I'm also glad to see so many others in this thread trying to understand the condition and find others to share experiences. I (and my Mom) would love to hear from anyone out there directly. Feel free to email me anytime!

Chris Buzon
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
chrisbuzon@pocketmail.com

IP: 204.50.199.4

ISIS3&3
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posted 03-06-2008 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ISIS3&3   Click Here to Email ISIS3&3     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
hello......i was reading all these posts about people young & old with trisomy8, i was like wow...........there are more with this condition. i have a 7month old with trisomy8.....the diagnosis was discovered when i was 4months pregnant......i know very little of this. yet not only was my son diagnosed with trisomy8 but also 22 & dextracardia as well. all the info i get from the doctors are about more tests because they don't know anything......i don't know where else to go now.

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PatsMom
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posted 03-29-2008 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PatsMom   Click Here to Email PatsMom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My son is 16 yrs old with Trisomy 8, 77% mosaic. He has a variety of physical ailments, some severe, some less severe. His greatest problem being his kidneys. He has bilateral hydronephrosis. He's had 2 kidney surgeries and we are maintaining for now. He's had mecklesdiverticulum, an apparent intestine growing out of the stomach lining, which caused tremendous intestine bleeding requiring stomach surgery. He's had 4 other minor surgeries on his eyes and a double hernia. He also suffers from those terrible mouth sores, made worse now by the braces on his teeth. He also has very large hands and feet. He's only 5'2", but wears a size 13 shoe, so far. The high fevers stopped at about age 12, thank God! Mentally, he's about an IQ 73 and he struggles, but does amazingly well under the circumstances. He is homeschooled and can read approximately 10th grade level. He also loves animals, all animals, but especially dogs. I hope he will work with animals in the future. He is well adjusted and is a happy and loving kid. I hope this information will be helpful to another mom like me, who couldn't find anyone to relate to until I found this website. I know we will deal with more issues in the future, but for now all is well. God bless you all.

[This message has been edited by PatsMom (edited 03-29-2008).]

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